Cellulitis Skin Infection & Erysipelas for New Nurse Practitioners
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When it comes to cellulitis, there’s a lot to think about. Most of the new nurse practitioners that I mentor have the textbook knowledge and the clinical judgment, but there are a few steps to connect the dots in real world practice.
Cellulitis & Erysipelas in Primary Care
In this video, you’ll learn:
The clinical manifestations to watch out for (and red flags)
How to know who to keep outpatient vs send to the ER
What factors to keep in mind with your decision-making
The real world picture of managing someone with cellulitis & erysipelas
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well hey there it's liz rohr from real
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world np and you're watching np
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to help save you time frustration
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and help you learn faster so you can
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take the best care of your patients
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so today i'm going to be talking about
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cellulitis
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and erysepolis i have to think about
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that pronunciation every single time
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um but yeah so i'm going to be talking
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about that presentation
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and i really want to focus on um
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i want to backtrack and say that i have
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been precepting nurse practitioners for
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almost five years now and i i currently
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mentor
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several new nurse practitioners in
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primary care and
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i have to say that nurse practitioners
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as a whole as they're
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new into practice it's overwhelming it's
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a lot of responsibility
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um and i they are very bright and
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they have great resources and most of
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the time what we're doing when we're
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talking together is putting those pieces
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together
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and forming kind of those clinical
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judgment decisions
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um that you can't really get from
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textbooks so that's what i kind of want
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to focus on
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in this video today is talking about
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what are the what is it kind of like
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foundation some foundational knowledge
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about cellulitis
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but also the clinical decision making of
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how it really applies in real world
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practice because that's what i'm here
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for right real world
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uh np practice so yeah so some clinical
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manifestations of cellulitis so
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um and aerospalis you want to think
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about um this is probably not news to
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you but just as a recap
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disclaimer actually before i get started
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into the clinical manifestations is that
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there are many types of cellulitis and
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so peri-orbital cellulitis has very
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specific
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things you want to think about when it
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comes to assessment when it comes to
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treatment
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and additionally there are other types
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of less common places of getting
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cellulitis so
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somebody who has a larger bmi who has a
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panic gets peniculitis
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things like that like those are very
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kind of unique situations to investigate
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further
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primarily what i'm focusing on here has
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to do with lower extremity
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cellulitis because that's like the main
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one that i see in primary care may also
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apply to upper extremity as well
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but anyway so just using your clinical
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judgment and listening to your gut when
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it comes to
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specific types of cellulitis that are
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less common presentations but anyway so
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i'm generally focusing on lower
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extremity cellulitis because that's the
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most common cause
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so some clinical manifestations is it's
Clinical manifestations
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usually the unilateral
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um one-sided edema
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warmth whether it's like slightly warm
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to hot and
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erythema and i want to make a note that
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um there's different skin tones for
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patients right so there's
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that fits patrick scale that one to six
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it talks about um
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you know darker versus lighter skin like
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all the way up the scale
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so depending on the baseline skin tone
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of the patient it's going to appear
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differently right
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so in patients who have a five or six
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skin tone or darker skin tone they might
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appear as hyperpigmentation so
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definitely don't um miss out on that for
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sure and that
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it's not talked about i think enough um
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versus if you have a very light skin
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tone i believe i have type one
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um for me it would be a very like a
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brighter red color
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uh potentially um and so um
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you might also see things like petechiae
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superficial boule and i never say that
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right those
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large blisters um you also may see
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vesicles
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the smaller blisters as well as ecomo
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sees sometimes i don't see that as often
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but i definitely do see the boulet
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and the vesicles for sure
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um you may or may not see fever in
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patients it tends to correlate with more
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clinically ill patients when they have a
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fever
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or things like tachycardia or
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hypotension um
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if you happen to see that those patients
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are a lot more ill and likely need
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hospitalization
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and then when it comes to aerospalis
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versus cellulitis
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aerosplash is more of a superficial
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skin infection whereas the cellulitis
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goes deeper into the towards the fat
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tissue
Aerospalis vs Cellulitis
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and for aerospace you might see a more
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rapid onset
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brighter um more intense symptoms and
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you might see edema of the skin and that
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potential appearance like the
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orange peel because the follicles
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because of the edema and like sharp
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demarcation
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that's a little bit more consistent with
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that i see that less often quite
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honestly than the cellulitis
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and then when it comes to um the
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assessment and the treatment
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cellulitis really breaks down into
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purulent versus non-purulent and there's
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kind of different
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treatment pathways depending on which
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one you're talking about if there's any
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discharge drainage things like that or
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an abscess
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really important to assess is if there's
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any fluctuance so when you're pressing
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down on
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with gloves on on top of the of the area
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you're not getting any of that fluctuate
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sensation because those patients may
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need incision and drainage
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they might need some some other types of
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treatment i'm not really getting into
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abscess in this video
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a couple other things i just want to
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talk about when it comes to cellulitis
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and the conversations that i typically
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have with newer clinicians
Risk Factors
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a couple things to think about so one is
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risk factors another one is
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whether or not they need hospitalization
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um
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choosing the antibiotics and then the
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type of like kind of real world
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management so just to jump in that's the
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rest
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of the stuff i'm going to talk about in
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this video so um risk factors so there's
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a number of risk factors to think about
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which will really inform your plan going
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forward
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so where did this come from so did
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somebody fall
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and they have a trauma to the area and
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then it became infected do they have an
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underlying skin condition like eczema
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psoriasis
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um things like that um do they have
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edema in their lower extremities because
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of um
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uh you know lymphatic impaired lymphatic
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drainage
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venous insufficiency are the
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immunosuppressed in a way like with
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diabetes or hiv or cancer
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things like that um a really uh an
Other Risk Factors
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additional risk factor is obesity and i
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i can't speak to the um to the to the
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actual like mechanism of action there
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maybe just like a correlation that's
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been noted
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um and a really kind of sneaky pearl one
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which you may have heard before
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is um tinia so having tina peters in
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between the toes
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um onychomycosis and the toenails those
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are definitely risk factors for the
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development of a bacterial skin
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infection a cellulitis
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so things to think about like what are
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those risk factors so not only that
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helps you and helps inform the history
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and like what the steps further are like
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was it just an injury
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the injury's going to heal you treat
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that uh treat the cellulitis and it goes
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away
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versus they have diabetes um
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antineapetis do you want to treat them
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for the tinia and then you also want to
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think about um does that increase their
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risk for a more severe infection
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so those are the main things when it
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comes to risk factors which really ties
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into this question of do they need
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hospitalization or not so i want to give
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a patient an example here
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so when i was a newer grad i think i had
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a couple months of experience i don't
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remember exactly how much how long but i
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had a patient
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a white male uh six year old 60ish uh
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year old man and he had diabetes
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uh who's and his a1c was about in the 10
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to 12 range first uh 10 to 12 percent
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persistently he also had lower extremity
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edema um
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on and off uh just idiopathic we've
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worked it up and it was kind of just
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there
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chronic venous insufficiency was
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probably the likely cause he's like oh
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can you just take a look at my foot real
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quick
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um i i fell and i stumbled and i stubbed
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my toe
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and i was like okay that's fine he took
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his off his shoes he takes off his socks
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he rolls up his pant leg
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um and like he had very like light skin
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and so he
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light colored undertone of his skin and
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he had a very bright red
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foot all the way up to his mid shin and
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he had
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a clear injury at his toe and he had
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diabetes
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and um it was very hot it was swollen it
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was very red
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and he um it was malodorous too like
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there was there was
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some kind of smell coming from the from
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the injury
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and so um so i knew that he had some
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sort of bacterial infection
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needed treatment um but i just had this
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gut sensation
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of this is a lot of i see this a lot in
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newer clinicians where it's kind of it's
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a little bit overwhelming to be a new
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provider
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regardless of nurse practitioner or
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otherwise when you go to see a patient
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you're really focused on the symptoms
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the history the assessment
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diagnosis the plan the treatment it's
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kind of hard not to get swept away by
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that
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and so very easily you could say that
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this patient needs antibiotics
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um but it's really important to take
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that pause and i and i had this pause of
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like this gut sensation of like okay
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like
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i probably should have somebody else
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look at this this looks this looks
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really severe
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so um and his vital signs were stable he
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had no fever he felt fine
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aside from being in some pain in his
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foot and i pulled
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my colleague and my uh supervisor at the
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time and they agreed very heartily that
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he needed hospitalization
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and so um so yeah i mentioned that just
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because i
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i remember that that feeling of kind of
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um
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just it's just hard it's hard being a
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new provider
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so that's something to think about is
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one in your decision tree right
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hospitalization or not
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and there isn't really a hard and fast
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like rule but it's kind of more
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along the lines of how severe is it what
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are their risk factors again
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do they have fever tachycardia
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hypotension
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um extremes of age like things like that
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um to really inform your decision
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so um so yeah so looking at the risk
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factors the symptoms whether or not they
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need hospitalization the last kind of
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like two to three things i want to talk
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about
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is like the decision tree of treatment
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so if it's safe to keep them outpatient
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you want to consult whatever resource
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you use to to help with this
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and so there's a variety of resources
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but um i particularly love sanford
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antimicrobial guide and i'm not
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affiliated with them
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in any way i just use it myself and it's
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about thirty dollars a year and you can
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search on their app by type of infection
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include their allergies include their
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risk factors and their recommendations
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for
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which antibiotic for how long et cetera
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et cetera there are other ones out there
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but that's the one that i use the most
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and thinking about like do you need to
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treat for mrsa versus uh
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versus for resistant and bacteria versus
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not
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um yeah and then in terms of like the
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real world implications again another
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thing that i had to catch myself doing
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as a new nurse practitioner as a newer
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provider
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is that it's very easy to say you know
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i've made that decision they're safe to
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go outpatient let's just give them an
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antibiotic and go
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but really we have to still exercise a
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lot of caution with these patients and
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so
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generally speaking i'll bring my
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patients back in the first 24 to 48
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hours of starting antibiotics
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to monitor the progression and see if
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it's getting better or if it's getting
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worse
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always giving those alarm signs in
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between of like if you develop any of
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these alarming things then please seek
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care or please contact the clinic
Hospitalization
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and typically um this is consensus
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practice of
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that close follow-up but also doing an
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outline of the area
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right with a skin marking pen to make
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sure that it's not extending beyond
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those margins
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because if it is then those patients
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actually might need iv antibiotics
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instead of oral
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therapy or they might need an antibiotic
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change but typically if it's extending
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within that period of time
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i'll typically refer them for
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hospitalization for assessment for iv
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antibiotics and
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it depends on on the type of infection
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and the risk factors like
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if they even need to be admitted or if
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they just stay for a couple of doses of
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antibiotics so
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so yeah and then the last thing i just
Other Considerations
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want to wrap with i started with kind of
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things to watch out for in terms of
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periorbital cellulitis is a little bit
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different you're not necessarily going
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to mark around the eye
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there's some other considerations right
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and there's there's also a wide
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differential base as well as alarm signs
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and symptoms to watch out for in
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addition to the ones that i've already
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mentioned
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so things like crepitus if it appears
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gangrenous like if they seem unstable
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i'm trusting your clinical judgment here
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to like look at a patient be able to to
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see those things but just
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definitely things to keep in mind a
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couple of sneaky ones that will present
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as
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um similarly to a cellulitis a lower
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extremity cellulitis in particular
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drug reactions uh erythema migrants
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especially if it has central clearing
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because or the aerocephalus can have
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that um central clearing sometimes
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um herpes again can have those little
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vesicles um
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and then osteomyelitis so so to kind of
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go back to that patient i
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sent him to the er and he got admitted
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and he was there for actually a couple
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of months because he ended up
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having um an osteomyelitis he needed an
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amputation he needed long-term iv
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antibiotics he actually ended up on in
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renal failure because of
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a variety of things but um but yeah so
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that's definitely a risk factor that you
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want to think about
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um also contact dermatitis dvts
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stasis dermatitis insect bites and then
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another one is a
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so those are things to think about not
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comprehensive of course so definitely
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utilize your resources
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but animal bites are another separate
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category those have very particular
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things to think about too so
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anyway that is hopefully like a primer
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in cellulitis or a refresher in
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cellulitis
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but definitely consult with your
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resources to get that full picture and
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always consult if you have any questions
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because i still consult too especially
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if you're not sure to send somebody to
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the er or not
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especially if they don't have insurance
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they don't want to go there's covid you
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know so
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um there's no there's no harm there's no
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shame in consulting with other people
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to make sure that you're really kind of
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given the best care for your patients so
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