New Nurse Practitioner Job Tips with The Resume Rx
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Getting a job as a NP is SO different than getting one as a nurse.
This week I had my friend Amanda from The Resume Rx on to answer the top questions I got about starting the NP job process.
There are SO many things we could talk about! I'd love to have her back again for more conversations.
New Nurse Practitioner Job Tips
In this video, we covered:
1:25 - Where does a newly graduating NP even start?
4:15 - What steps to take after taking boards?
6:43 - DEA? NPI? What does that even mean?
7:40 - When to start applying for a job?
9:30 - What is credentialing and how long does that take?
10:50 - Is it even appropriate to reach out to offices with everything happening around COVID19?
15:34 - Advice for people who have already been looking for awhile?
20:10 - The "one-way" interview
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actually this is a recorded interview
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that I did with my friend Amanda I'm
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super grateful because I love the
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clinical stuff if you're following me at
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all you know that I do but I know that
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there's a lot of the transition becoming
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a new nurse practitioner there's a lot
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more than just the clinical stuff this
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all that career related all those career
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related topics that I've just not as
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savvy with and so my friend I'm super
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grateful because my friend Amanda
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actually runs the resume rx calm and
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she's super super passionate about
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helping nurses and nurse practitioners
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finding their dream jobs and navigating
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this journey between being a nurse to a
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nurse practitioner so I hope you enjoy
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our interview it's my first one so a
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little bit maybe not myself but
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hopefully you enjoy and definitely leave
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us a comment below or any questions that
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you have further she's a wealth of
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knowledge I'd love to have her back on
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but hopefully it's a good one for you
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we're doing now so yeah there are a lot
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of questions that people have so I
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reached out to my email list I reached
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out to people on Instagram and Facebook
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and asked what their questions were
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about graduating if they are currently a
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student and there are so many things we
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could talk about so many questions I
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could ask but I just want to maybe start
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with the most common ones that kind of
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came across and so I think yeah maybe
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where we can start is like where does
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somebody even start like if they're at
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the end of their program they still have
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clinicals to finish we're in the middle
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of this curta virus pandemic and we like
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they also just like on a regular year I
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don't necessarily know where to go where
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would you recommend they start first
How to start your job search
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yeah so I think that a great place to
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start would be with some self-assessment
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and self-reflection and you know trying
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not to panic but to kind of stay calm
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center yourself and figure out start
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thinking about like what you actually
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want out of your next job or your first
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job if you're a new graduate like what
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does that look like for you spend some
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time visualizing thinking about it
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reflecting on what you've done in your
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clinical so far and what has felt good
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in clinicals usually that's a really
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predictor of what you're going to enjoy
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when you get into your first job so you
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know self-assessment and self
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observation is really a good place to
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start of course you want to get your
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documents in order so making sure that
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your resume is up-to-date that you have
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kind of like a working cover letter that
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you can adapt and then start to figure
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out what your community needs
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so either the community that you're
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living in or that you're moving to um
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start getting a good feel about what the
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job market is there so that you kind of
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know what you're getting into job wise
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and then you know they'll be kind of
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this period where things happen kind of
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at the same time so like your job search
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kind of runs parallel to things like
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studying for your finals graduating
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taking your board exam applying for your
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state license and all that happens kind
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of at the same time and then once you
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are licensed then you are kind of in the
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more eligible to work category so um I
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think that it's really helpful to kind
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of like lay things out in a checklist
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kind of format to make sure that you
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know everything that needs to happen um
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so yeah that's kind of a few steps that
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you and I love that perspective because
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I think that a lot of people I think
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there's a lot of fear and a lot of
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conversation about like what's going on
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with oversaturation and like the virus
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pandemic and all the stuff going on and
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people kind of had this paradigm going
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into it of like I'm just gonna take look
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well I'm not gonna be able to find
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anything and I'm gonna take what I can
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get so I love that framing of like just
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starting with yourself and thinking
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about what exactly you want to do and we
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talked about this a lot in terms of
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thinking about the things we actually
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want to do and they're being available
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out there so I love that but yeah and
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then so it sounds like you know starting
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with that and then what so thinking
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about boards so typically what is the
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kind of like pathway going forward so
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people will eventually get their
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clinical hours they'll graduate they
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take their boards what are kind of the
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next steps kind of around
Applying for your state license
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yeah so the next steps would definitely
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be to apply for your state license so
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hopefully you already have the RN
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license in the state that you plan to
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work if you are relocating this is a
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really important point if you plan to
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work as an MP in another state you
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should be as soon as possible as soon as
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you know what state you're going to work
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in you should be applying for your RN
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license because usually that has to be
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in place before you get your NP so after
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you graduate and take your boards state
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license is next and then once you have
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those things you can apply for your NPI
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number and your DEA and license and that
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pretty much rounds out the things that
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you're responsible for and then there's
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a whole host of credentialing tasks that
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will be done by your employer once you
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have a job and so in general do you
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personally and do you recommend that
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people apply for their NPI and their DEA
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before they apply for a job so they
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already have that because I think
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there's a question also of like police
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when I first started they I was kind of
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like walked through that situation and I
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also had my DEA fees paid for by my job
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so yeah what is your perspective on that
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yeah I think it I think it depends I
Job search
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don't think that it hurts to start your
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job search even before you graduate in
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which case it's possible that you could
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kind of land a conditional job and they
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could be kind of footing the bill for
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those things but I probably wouldn't
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wait until after those things before
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starting the job search because you know
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best-case scenario like you said maybe
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they will you know fund that for you and
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then yeah I definitely think that the
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job search should happen kind of
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probably in advance of taking your
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boards that doesn't mean that you'll
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necessarily have a job because some
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employers will want you to be pretty
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much ready what for those positions that
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don't necessarily need somebody right
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away it may actually work in your favor
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to be searching in advance because that
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time line could line up that you know
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you're credentialed on their end and
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your credential you know your state
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licensed
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and then you can you can imagine go
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totally and actually I want to back up
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for a second because I think DEA and NPI
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very familiar to us but might not be
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familiar to new grads so NPI is that
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national provider identification number
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that we all have NPI you could google
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mine but please don't and I said that
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but yeah I don't think you can Google
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but that's like they're gonna you can
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see and so you need those if you're
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going to be prescribing controlled
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substances NPI numbers are just
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insurance related basically um correct
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me otherwise and then depending I think
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on your state to you have to get a
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controlled substance registration so in
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Massachusetts there's an mcs are part
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that goes along with I think the DEA I I
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get a lot of help from my from my job to
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tell me what to do what to apply for and
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all that but um but yeah so those are
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things that people could consider
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consider doing beforehand but yeah that
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brings up another question I think that
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people had is that like how long what is
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the typical timeline so I think that
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some people have a question should I
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even well I have a lot of questions so
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maybe we'll break it down of like so it
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sounds like we could apply before
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graduating we could apply before boards
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or you could Rachel after but you
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typically recommend before boards
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starting to think about yeah I think
Credentialing
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that that is pretty smart because even
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before you have your state license there
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are things that can go on in the
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background that the employer can be
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working on because the whole
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credentialing process is very long so
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even for me to put things in perspective
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with my you know most recent job because
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I relocated recently I'm already
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licensed in this state I moved within a
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state and it took four months for me to
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get credentialed with the hospital with
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all the different steps that they had to
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do they to do the background check they
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had to check the references they had to
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verify my past employment for ten years
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like all these different things that
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they can do before you're officially
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boarded and licensed so um you know
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especially if you are wanting to work as
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soon as possible I think that starting
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your job search on the earlier site is
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in your favor because best case scenario
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you know you could get a job offer sign
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it before
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you graduate they're working on those
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credentialing things that they do in the
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background the employer you're working
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on graduating and passing your boards
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and getting your license and you know in
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the best case scenario both of those
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things would end at the same time and
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then you could start shortly after
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getting your license whereas if you wait
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until after you get your license which
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is fine if you're not in any big rush
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you could be looking at a good like four
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to six months before you're starting
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depending on the setting that you're
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working in yeah and I did I think I just
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want to stress that point is that that's
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pretty typical like I think I've heard
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of travel and P jobs where they can
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credential you in like a week or two or
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something but typically and then what so
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so first of all credentialing is a big
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thing and it can take a couple months
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two to three months typically is what I
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found so I changed jobs in the last year
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and that's typically for most people so
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like the timeline is that kind of like
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you apply it has to go through HR
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there's interviews they have to have a
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plan they have to have the budget like
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that there's there's things involved
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right so it's about it can be about
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three months easily right and then the
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credentialing part is involving
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background checks like you said it also
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can involve and correct me if I'm wrong
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because I don't feel like I'm super
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savvy with the credentialing stuff but
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it typically has to do with every
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insurance company that you can bill for
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that you have to be approved by and they
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work very hard in the background to do
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that and I don't think that people
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necessarily see that and I think that's
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one of the I think this this this whole
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topic is one of the ways that it's so
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different as an NP versus as an RN
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because you kind of can apply and get a
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job a lot quicker typically so so yeah
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so so the average timeline came you a
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couple months it would be nice if it all
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matched up and he applied now and but I
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don't I think setting the expectation
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I'd like typically that doesn't
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necessarily happen at least for me I did
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not I did I've never had that happen
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where it's been smooth it like that but
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um but yeah and so so credentialing at
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the amount of time what are the things
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that you and then karna virus yeah so
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why don't we what do you what thoughts
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do you have one of the questions that
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kind of pointed question and I wrote
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this person back by email but it's kind
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of this feeling of like is it even
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appropriate to reach out and because I
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think it restricted
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are just such empathetic kind people
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right and so this nurse this graduating
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nurse practitioner is thinking about is
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it even appropriate to reach out to them
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because they're scrambling dealing with
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the coronavirus preparedness is it even
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appropriate to reach out for them to
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think about job prospects and like what
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are your thoughts about that and what
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are your thoughts about just like how
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it's going to be right now
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yeah so I think that it will it will
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vary greatly depending on the setting so
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the reality right now at least what I'm
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seeing is the settings that are dealing
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with kind of frontline Crona buyers
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patients so like the hospitals for
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example are scrambling and hiring like
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crazy at least they are here in New York
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City obviously we're in the middle of a
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surge so that's happening really quickly
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and they're focused kind of solely on
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that effort I mean even around the
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country the the kind of hubs that are
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awaiting a surge are focusing really
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just on the coronavirus efforts so if
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that's the type of setting that you plan
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to work in and you're not ready to work
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right now it's probably wise to kind of
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like take a step back and wait before
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reaching out because there's likely not
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the bandwidth someone doesn't have the
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bandwidth to like consider you as an
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applicant yet
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now there's also what's happening on the
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flip side is a lot of practices that
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don't necessarily deal with kind of
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frontline patients or have really low
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senses because everybody is staying home
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those practices are actually laying off
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and peas which is is concerning yeah so
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I think that there will be this period
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of time hopefully like a month or two
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not much more that they'll be this
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perception of like a hiring freeze where
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and Peas won't be getting new jobs
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unless they're related to coronavirus
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efforts but this can be kind of a
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blessing in disguise like I think it'll
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be more important now than ever to be
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very intentional about your job search
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to be kind of exploring and leveraging
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any connections that you have like
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reaching out to preceptors or practices
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that you are familiar with or any
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connections you have from your are
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courier and really think about not only
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what your community needs now but what
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they'll need in the coming months and
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years and how you can fill that need and
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this is where like some of that
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self-reflection comes in like if you
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have a really unique skill set or a
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really unique interest that you know
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matches what your community will need
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like you should explore positions that
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will let you kind of cultivate that um
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but here's the thing so like these
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clinics and um practices are temporarily
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shutting down but it's temporary so when
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they come back up there's gonna be a
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backlog of patients to see in Oregon
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like all the people who have missed just
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like I can't even wrap my head around I
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can't even like just my own desktop at
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work yeah that's crazy
Hidden Job Market
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but then they've laid off the providers
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and those providers aren't going to have
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any sort of guarantee to get their job
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back necessarily or they may move on to
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another position quickly because they
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can't afford to be laid off so there may
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end up being many vacancies either
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because there's more demand like more
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patients to be seen to catch up with
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like basically a quarter of like three
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months of people not doing their like
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routine med techs and annuals and all
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that
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so so there there will be vacancies but
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keep in mind they may not be posted jobs
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so I talked a lot about exploring the
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hidden job market which is essentially
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like vacancies that exist but aren't
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posted publicly you're not gonna find
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them scrolling on indeed.com
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right or to contact them or like talk
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with a connection about what they need
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like they're going to need you and they
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may not know it yet yeah so it's a time
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where you can really spend being
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intentional about your job search and
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really planning out the steps and kind
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of reverse engineering that job search
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so that you are kind of landing in the
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right spot yeah absolutely
Advice for New Nurse Practitioners
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yeah and that kind of brings me to like
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what
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what like I guess like it that a big
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question that I've seen and it really
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breaks my heart is is people who have
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been out of school for a very long time
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six months a year what what advice do
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you have for where those nurse
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practitioner students are now nurse what
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new nurse practitioners yeah so yeah I
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see that a lot too and you know the
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first thing is to I'm gonna say this
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again but to like work on your mindset
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and to you know examine what you are
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expecting you know if you are kind of
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putting this out into the world every
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day like it's oversaturated I'm never
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gonna find a job it's been six months
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I'm never gonna find a job I'm never
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gonna find it if you keep telling
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yourself that narrative that your
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beliefs are gonna become your actions
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and are gonna become your reality yeah
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so like that's the part that you really
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have some control over is what you tell
16:39
yourself is going to happen so there's
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some inner work involved that I
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definitely recommend um and then you
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know people who have been out of school
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for a little bit that can be perceived
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as a liability so when you're sending
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your application somewhere and they see
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that you graduated at this time and that
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you're either still working as a nurse
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or you're unemployed for six months a
17:02
year you know there's gonna be a
17:04
perception there from the person who's
17:05
reading that so that's why I actually I
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I recommend trying to reverse engineer
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that job search and identify where you
17:15
want to work and then contact them
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directly or reach out by email rather
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than just like sending a cold
17:23
application through and really working
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on those connections and leveraging
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those that you may have absolutely I
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mean I definitely feel like when I was a
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nurse when I was a staff nurse I just
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feel like the job process was just so
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different I mean there was like there
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was a unit I worked in the hospital and
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I was like there's a unit there was one
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open position this was the salary you
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know and like here's what we're looking
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for this number experienced and I just
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like the NP market is just so different
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and I think like you can work in a
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hospital based setting and it's very
17:53
similar right but there's so many other
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opportunities about like private
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practices or community health clinics
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are different - that's where I work now
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but yeah it's just it seems like it's
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just a very different kind of process
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and yeah I mean I've gotten a lot of
18:06
success through those kind of back
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routes myself to be kind honest it's
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really hard to it's really hard to just
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straight up go on indeed and see all the
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only things that are there you know yeah
Safety Net
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I also think that like for that NP for
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that new MP who's been out of school for
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a bit and hasn't landed a job like if
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they're in a safe if they're in an RN
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job like there's a safety net there that
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like subconsciously could keep you from
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getting your NP job you know there is a
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whole other sense of urgency that can
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come with being unemployed so I'm not
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I'm definitely not saying like go quit
18:49
your nursery so that you and Pete job
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but I think that sometimes that can play
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a factor um and you know if you
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otherwise told yourself okay this is
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this is gonna be my deadline you know if
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you if you tell yourself that narrative
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instead like you can maybe falsely
19:09
create that sense of urgency but if
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you're just like comfortable in the job
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that you have and you're waiting for the
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right thing to come ya know like it's
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the NP job market is you know you don't
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just wait for the right thing to come
19:24
along you have to be really it yeah you
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have to like really go out and get it
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and be intentional because like it's not
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something that's just gonna you know pop
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up yeah like like a nurse you know an RN
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job at your hospital you know you're not
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going to get like an email every week
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and all of a sudden hear your dream
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vacancy is gonna be there it's just it
19:45
just doesn't work that way whereas it
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kind of works that way in nursing at
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least definitely so I said to Amanda
Interview Tips
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when we were not on this call that I'm a
19:55
little nervous is my first interview so
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I'm actually just gonna ask Amanda what
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are the other things we were going to
20:01
talk about we were going to talk about
20:07
an interview tip yes specifically like
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how interviews may be changing and yes
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yes go for it
20:16
thank you so a couple different things
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that I want people to know about because
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some of them are new to me obviously
20:25
there's not gonna be any in person
20:26
interviewing right now and I think that
20:29
even in the coming months that whatever
20:31
is in place now is going to continue so
20:34
the things so I'm talking about virtual
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interviewing so there are a few ways
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though that that can happen I used to
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think that a virtual interview could
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only happen kind of like what we're
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doing now like in real time face to face
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yeah you know scheduled on my calendar
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but so that is one option that's
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happening but there's also this process
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called a one-way interview also known as
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an on-demand interview oh god that's not
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certain I know in there um I've talked
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to a few people like a few fellowship
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programs and P fellowship programs are
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doing this and it's basically a way to
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kind of like massively into interview
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more people than you would be able to do
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face to face on a calendar so basically
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how it would work is you'd receive an
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email saying congratulations you've made
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it to the first round of interviews
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please click here to do your on-demand
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or one-way interview and basically you
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have to be ready to go once you click
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the link and once you click the link
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you're brought to this website and
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basically one at a time you're presented
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with interview questions there's like a
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timer and you have a period of time to
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prepare your answer usually like 30
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seconds to one minute so basically they
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show you the question and it doesn't
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record yet and then it like
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automatically starts after
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that period of prep time and then you
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have like three to five minutes or
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whatever has been predetermined as the
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time to video record your response Wow
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have you seen this happen so far are you
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just hearing about it or yeah so I
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didn't do that
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I haven't done it but like I've talked
22:14
to two or three people in the past week
22:17
who have recently um done it know the
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pros are you can be like totally
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prepared right like you could like right
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now I'm talking to you on my macbook and
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I've got the Notes app pulled up so that
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I can reference my notes like I've got
22:36
an outline of what we were talking about
22:37
today so that I know that I'm not going
22:39
to miss anything important so you can do
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the same thing with a video interview
22:42
whether it's live or whether it's
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recorded you can have your Notes app
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there you can have your resume pulled up
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you could have the website for the you
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know for the hospital or the clinic or
22:52
whatever because sometimes they always
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manage to sneak in a question about like
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their missions and value statements
23:00
prepared but the kind of negative thing
23:04
is that especially with a one-way
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interview like you can't read the room
23:08
you can't pick up on social cues or
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anything like that really helpful in an
23:14
interview you know like yeah it can give
23:17
you that vibe of how long should I be
23:18
talking like are they bored yet or is it
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like a crowd that you feel like you want
23:25
to work with to write things like so
23:27
many people go in with this idea like I
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just need a job I'll take anything and
23:31
it's like I just want to I just want to
23:33
take a stand for you if you're watching
23:35
this that you deserve a beautiful job
23:37
they'll be really well supported with
23:39
great mentoring and you don't have to
23:42
take whatever comes across but um anyway
23:44
I'll get off my soapbox about that but
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um but yeah what other I there are so
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many things that we can talk about are
23:51
there other things that we were going to
23:52
talk about I think I think they'll have
23:54
any questions that we were and I covered
23:56
but like how else amanda is a wealth of
23:58
Rhys wealth of information wonderful
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resource for everything career related
24:03
tell us how else you can help my lovely
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followers here yeah so
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I actually would like to invite
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everybody invite you to a free
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masterclass a live training that I'm
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doing later this month on April 22nd I'm
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gonna do to live times then and it's a
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class with the title oversaturation is
24:25
not the problem three mistakes keeping
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you from your dream and p job so it's
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gonna be a continuation of this
24:33
discussion
24:33
totally like super passionate about the
24:36
fact that oversaturation is an excuse i
24:41
think that it's something that we hear
24:44
and you can get into the spiral of
24:47
telling yourself that that's the reality
24:48
and like i said before your beliefs
24:50
become your actions and your actions
24:52
become your reality and so I'm really
24:55
passionate about changing that because I
24:57
think that if you get into this mindset
24:58
you're gonna end up taking whatever job
25:01
you can get you're gonna get a bottom of
25:03
the barrel and P job you're gonna leave
25:04
within three to six months and you're
25:06
gonna find yourself kind of in the same
25:08
spot that you were and Liz doesn't want
25:11
that for you I don't want that for you
25:13
like that is why we do what we do so yes
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please come join me for the class the
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resume our XCOM /np class or I think Liz
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will have a link yes a link below in it
25:25
yeah yes so that you can join me it'll
25:28
be like an hour there'll be live Q&A so
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yeah that's kind of the next step if you
25:33
want to learn more awesome beautiful
25:36
thank you so much and thank you for
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watching and my my my awkward
25:42
interviewing very first one thank you
25:44
for being my first yes cool
25:47
well definitely let us know if you have
25:49
any other questions I'd love to have
25:51
them into background if you have other
25:52
questions leave us a comment below and
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thank you so much
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