Vaginitis Differential & Treatment in Primary care

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How do you know the difference between different types of vaginitis? It can feel really complicated, but there are a few simple tools that can make it easier to diagnose.

I usually recommend a “first pass” approach, starting with the most common diagnoses, and after that moving to the laundry list of other possible differentials.

Diagnosing & Treating Vaginitis in Primary Care

In this video you’ll learn:

  • The top differentials to vaginitis in primary care

  • Pearls and pitfalls of history taking, diagnosis and treatment

  • The simple tools and tests to help differentiate between the different types

  • The first line treatments and caveats to consider

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    well hey there it's Liz Rohr from real

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    world MP and you're watching MP practice

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    made simple the weekly videos to help

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    save you time frustration and help you

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    learn faster so you can take the best

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    care of your patients so in this video

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    I'm gonna be talking about the top

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    differential diagnoses and when it comes

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    to vaginitis how to know the differences

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    between them and then the main

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    treatments going forward a lot of

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    clinical pearls as well as pitfalls to

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    important notes so Before we jump in

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    number one is that there's a cheat sheet

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    that goes along with this video so you

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    you're interested so a lot of your

    History

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    information is gonna come from the

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    history I don't know where this quote

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    came from that 80% of your diagnosis

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    comes from history but I find that it's

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    totally true and so specific to

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    vaginitis I'm looking down here me know

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    so I don't forget anything one of the

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    things about it is that it's a very

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    sensitive topic and a lot of people are

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    really embarrassed not only to be there

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    for that problem but to disclose a lot

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    of information about it and so

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    especially patients will wait a really

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    long time before they actually get care

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    for it because they're typically

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    prioritizing other people and that's a

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    gross generalization but it happens so

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    often or they're just too embarrassed to

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    come in they know those kinds of things

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    so I'll always offer that as an option

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    so hung has it been going on for days

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    weeks months you know longer than that

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    just so I don't make them feel

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    embarrassed and they also feel safe

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    enough to disclose that another thing is

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    that I offer the typical symptoms that

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    I'm looking for because sometimes people

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    don't want to talk about that either so

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    is their owner is they're eating is it

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    just discharged if they have abdominal

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    pain - burning when they pee like things

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    like that and a couple of other touchy

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    history questions but it's really

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    important that you ask all of these

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    because it's very

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    informative one of them is Heather's

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    happened before how often has it

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    happened is it recently because then

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    you're kind of getting into the area of

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    like recurrent infections and recurrent

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    infections are treated a little bit

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    differently than other ones sexual

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    health history getting a comprehensive

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    sexual health history as possible so I

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    definitely plan on making another video

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    specifically about that because there's

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    I don't feel like nationally or maybe

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    even internationally we're doing a very

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    good job talking well this is a topic

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    and especially as a brand-new grad can

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    be very uncomfortable and I typically

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    always blush but I'm talking anyway with

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    patients and that's fine because you

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    know what it's better to ask them to not

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    ask and they're more comfortable you can

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    be with asking those particular

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    questions the more comfortable they're

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    going to be and the less like sheepish

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    you're gonna be about it but anyway to

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    be continued I plan on making another

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    video about that privately so definitely

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    hang out on the email list if you're

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    interested in watching that one you

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    always want to ask what the use of

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    contraceptives you know are they taking

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    oral contraceptives but they have an IUD

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    because that can definitely have some

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    impact on vaginitis or the current

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    vaginitis using use of panty liners and

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    so maybe this is just the populations

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    that I've been working with but I think

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    a lot of people use panty liners every

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    single day which can reduce the airflow

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    in the area would predispose people to

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    things like BV I always asked about

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    soaps that they're using any scented

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    things that they're dishing at all like

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    all of that stuff can throw off the pH

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    vaginally and then haven't used any

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    over-the-counter treatments so far so

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    have they used like a like a yeast

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    treatment suppository because that's

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    gonna impact your testing and your

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    treatment going forward and then one

    Diagnosis

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    other thing to think about if it's very

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    classic or they're very forthcoming with

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    their symptoms this might not be as

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    something you have to ask about but

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    sometimes if it's really unclear you

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    want to ask like you know are your

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    symptoms more on the outside are they on

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    the inside is it the whole thing like

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    you can kind of like figure out exactly

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    what's going on so because when it comes

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    to the differential diagnosis there's

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    like a top three that are most common

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    but the actual list laundry list is

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    really long of possible options so top

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    diagnoses you probably learned a lot of

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    this in school but this is going to be

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    hopefully a refresher and very practical

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    hands-on way to

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    incorporate this in your practice and so

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    the top ones that are seen in primary

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    care are vector of vaginosis yeast Turku

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    bonus those are the top three infectious

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    ones the ones that I see additionally

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    are foreign bodies so things like

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    retained tampons and then cervicitis you

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    always want to think about improv I keep

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    wanting to say peripheral arterial

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    disease but pelvic inflammatory disease

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    whenever you're thinking about sexually

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    transmitted infections you always want

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    to think about PID as well and

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    cervicitis doesn't necessarily cause of

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    vaginitis but it can cause a nonspecific

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    vaginal discharge that you would only

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    kind of figure out based on their

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    history of symptoms and then their

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    physical exam so diagnosis so how do you

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    approach diagnosis so it's really

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    important to get that comprehensive

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    sexual health history to assess their

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    risk for sexually transmitted infections

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    and consider doing that as part of your

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    workup if they are at risk however the

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    steps kind of going forward there's some

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    really simple tools that you can use to

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    really help you especially if you don't

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    have access to testing and so when it

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    comes to the top three BV trichomonas

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    and yeast so a couple things can really

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    help you first one is pH and so if you

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    have pH paper what you can do is just

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    test the pH of the vaginal secretions

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    and is it high normal or low so if it's

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    on the higher side that's more

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    consistent with bv & trichomonas they

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    basically look exactly the same

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    fortunately or unfortunately there are

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    similar treatments as well whereas he

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    used is slightly on the lower side

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    versus if it's normal one other thing

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    that I didn't mention in the

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    differentials is that it's likely it

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    could be normal because I am very

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    passionate about women's health for a

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    number of reasons but I get really fired

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    up talking about lack of understanding

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    and knowledge and shame when it comes to

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    these type of issues and so people don't

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    necessarily know what physiologic

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    discharges so that's something to kind

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    of consider in your differential

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    diagnosis you might need to kind of do

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    some education there but the pH paper is

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    your is a great first step and they can

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    kind of point you in the one direction

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    or the other the next one is using

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    potassium hydroxide the Koh that little

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    tiny bottle and when you have a sample

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    you can put the pewte the Koh bottle on

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    there breaks open the cells and releases

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    an Emmy and odor am i an e or a fishy

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    odor and that will point you in the

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    direction of a BV or a trichomonas

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    whereas if it doesn't have

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    in order it's less likely to be that one

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    so stepping back a little bit there's

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    something called AM Souls criteria I

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    wish to sound real fancy if you talk

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    about it like that but that's basically

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    on the criteria that you can use to

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    diagnose BV clinically meaning just

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    looking at a patient physically doing a

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    physical exam so one is like a thin

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    whitish grey ash discharge to is a high

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    pH 3 is the amine odor when using that

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    Koh whiff test and then 4 is clue cells

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    on microscopy and so you might not

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    necessarily feel comfortable with gotta

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    cross compete or have access to that so

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    if you have those first three then that

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    is suggestive of BB when it comes to

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    used technically a low pH is consistent

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    with that it may also have like a

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    whitish clumpy appearance in terms of

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    discharge on physical exam however it's

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    technically to diagnose it you're

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    supposed to be able to see it on culture

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    you'll definitely see a lot of

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    real-world practice people diagnosing it

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    just by looking at it and based on their

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    symptoms there's itching and stuff like

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    that and it doesn't have the other signs

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    and symptoms of BV then people will

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    treat it kind of clinically without that

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    test I think to possum to pitfalls I

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    want to want you to be aware of one is

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    that BV can present as a whitish clumpy

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    discharge and have that positive amine

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    odor and not have any yeast in there

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    fun fact I've seen that a number of

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    times and then to is that when people

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    talk about testing they don't

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    necessarily know what to test so what

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    tests can you do if you're not doing

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    that clinical diagnosis one it depends

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    on the lab that you work with

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    but there's specific a vaginitis panel

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    that it requires its own type of swab

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    and I can't really talk to that because

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    there are so many different laboratories

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    but that's something you want to think

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    about going forward people will I've

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    definitely seen this pitfall a lot of

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    people sending out a regular like a

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    aerobic culture to it's like a red top

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    or a blue top and thinking if they send

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    that out for a culture when it comes

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    back as something like gardnerella

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    that's gonna be consistent with

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    bacterial vaginosis but that is not the

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    case BV is just a dysbiosis and

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    imbalance of the normal flora and so you

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    cannot diagnose it with an anaerobic

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    culture it could be suggestive that

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    gardnerella predominance

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    could be consistent with BV however

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    please don't use it baby not type of -

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    so but the good news is if you use the

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    koh and you use the

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    each paper you're you're well on your

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    way to making a diagnosis when it comes

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    to trichomonas it's very similar to BV

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    all this information is in the handout

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    down below if you feel like this is like

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    way too much information but trichomonas

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    the main differentiator is that you can

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    see those those little guys on

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    microscopy if you do microscopy but you

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    can also do one of those nucleic

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    amplification tests or those rapid

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    antigen tests there are rapid tests that

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    you can do in the clinic they're about

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    they're mostly they're mostly since that

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    have been specific so yeah when it comes

    Treatment

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    to the main treatment I mean the

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    differential list is actually quite a

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    lot longer than that but again it's on

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    that sheet sheet down below and if it's

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    not if it's not matching up those

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    classic ways of your first past okay

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    yeast or BV or trichomonas or a service

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    situs of some kind or a foreign body

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    then you can kind of take those next

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    paths forward and then always catching

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    yourself and being like is this normal

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    is this physiologist right do I need to

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    educate them on normal odor normal

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    appearance etc etc especially I mean it

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    actually doesn't matter how old the

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    person is I find a lot of younger adults

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    need that kind of education and

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    knowledge but it doesn't matter how old

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    they are quite honestly so the main

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    treatment is really just dependent on

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    what we're talking about so when it

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    comes to bacterial vaginosis vaginosis

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    there's a couple different treatments

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    there's topical metronidazole and then

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    there's oral metronidazole and those are

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    both first-line and I just give patients

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    the option because it's their bodies and

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    you control them so do would you prefer

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    a cream or would you prefer it though

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    keeping in mind that with oral

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    metronidazole you're technically

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    supposed to avoid alcohol 24 hours

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    before and 48 hours after the entire

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    course to prevent this kind of like

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    antabuse type of vomiting effect doesn't

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    happen with everybody but I always warn

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    people of that the the main benefit of

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    doing oral metronidazole is that if

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    you're not testing for trichomonas you

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    could potentially cover them for

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    trichomonas trichomonas is typically

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    like a one-time 2 gram dose if

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    metronidazole or a week long of twice a

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    day however keeping in mind if you're

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    not treating the partner of somebody

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    then they can get it right back again if

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    you feel like it is too unless you

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    really should test for it the other

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    thing to think about when it comes to

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    used there are a couple of first-line

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    options there all the azole antifungals

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    basically and you can either do the oral

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    kind or you can do the topical kind and

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    the

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    isn't necessarily one that's better than

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    the other I typically go based on

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    insurance keeping in mind that my con is

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    ole which is the one that's typically

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    over-the-counter can burn for some

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    people some people have no problem with

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    it but some people it burns and then

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    fluconazole is the oral main first-line

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    oral regimen that you can even do like a

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    one time pill or want one pill over the

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    course of a couple of days it's all on

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    the cheat sheet down below but um the

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    main thing to think about with that is I

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    can interact with a number of

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    medications so just can't keeping that

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    one in mind so hopefully hopefully that

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    was helpful let me know if you have any

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    questions or if there's any particular

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    topics you want to hear about again I'll

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    be definitely be working on that central

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    I'm super excited for it I'd love to

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    have you thank you so much for watching

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    hang in there and I'll see you soon

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